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Fill me in on Trafficators...
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Andrew Nodwell
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May I suggest you wire your fornicators
so they cancel as soon as the door opens please :0
And that you remember to park away from the footway (sidewalk?)
Spell checker suggested "Fornicators" instead of "Trafficators".
It sounded fun so I took their fun filled advice
It's a grey day here otherwise
so they cancel as soon as the door opens please :0
And that you remember to park away from the footway (sidewalk?)
Spell checker suggested "Fornicators" instead of "Trafficators".
It sounded fun so I took their fun filled advice
It's a grey day here otherwise
In reply to # 5175 by 73midget
My understanding is that trafficators were only on UK cars; true or false?
How easy/hard is it to install them to a US car, assuming one can find a pair without trading in a kidney?
what years will they fit to?
thanks in advance!
How easy/hard is it to install them to a US car, assuming one can find a pair without trading in a kidney?
what years will they fit to?
thanks in advance!
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Roger Asay
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Sep 5, 2015 09:17 AM
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All:
Thanx for the info on trafficators. I have '58 Trav. and seriously thinking about installing them. Need the whole package, but I think without the rain shields. Will search eBay as well.
rogerasay@icloud.com
Thanx for the info on trafficators. I have '58 Trav. and seriously thinking about installing them. Need the whole package, but I think without the rain shields. Will search eBay as well.
rogerasay@icloud.com
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Sep 5, 2015 09:56 AM
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http://www.gsjones.co.uk/search?controller=search&orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=trafficator&submit_search=Search
http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/forum/phpbb/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2359
http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/forum/phpbb/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2359
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All:
Thanx for the info on trafficators. I have '58 Trav. and seriously thinking about installing them. Need the whole package, but I think without the rain shields. Will search eBay as well.
rogerasay@icloud.com
Thanx for the info on trafficators. I have '58 Trav. and seriously thinking about installing them. Need the whole package, but I think without the rain shields. Will search eBay as well.
rogerasay@icloud.com
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Sep 5, 2015 02:07 PM
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https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=LMP175R&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=XTzrVc0gy7TtBtvJh8AG#q=%22LMP175R%22
In reply to # 5175 by 73midget
My understanding is that trafficators were only on UK cars; true or false?
How easy/hard is it to install them to a US car, assuming one can find a pair without trading in a kidney?
what years will they fit to?
thanks in advance!
How easy/hard is it to install them to a US car, assuming one can find a pair without trading in a kidney?
what years will they fit to?
thanks in advance!
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Sep 5, 2015 02:51 PM
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My 1952 and my brothers 1950 California cars both have the original semaphores installed ,they look to be easy to install the operating switches are easy to find ,if your car never had them from the factory then you will probably need to wire them completely yourself ,they do draw as much attention as the car itself.
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Sep 5, 2015 03:35 PM
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http://www.minorpartsofoxford.co.uk/morris-minor-trafficatorsemaphore/
In reply to # 5175 by 73midget
My understanding is that trafficators were only on UK cars; true or false?
How easy/hard is it to install them to a US car, assuming one can find a pair without trading in a kidney?
what years will they fit to?
thanks in advance!
How easy/hard is it to install them to a US car, assuming one can find a pair without trading in a kidney?
what years will they fit to?
thanks in advance!
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In reply to # 14105 by 0123
May I suggest you wire your [trafficators]
so they cancel as soon as the door opens please :0
And that you remember to park away from the footway (sidewalk?)
so they cancel as soon as the door opens please :0
And that you remember to park away from the footway (sidewalk?)
Wiring the trafficators to cancel as soon as the door opens is certainly doable but would be tricky. The trafficator grounds out through its mounting so it only has a single wire leading to it which would come from the trafficator switch. You would need a door switch to cut power on the trafficator lead to shut it off. That said, the stock style door switches of most or all British cars generally operate lights by grounding the wire allowing a current to flow when the door is opened rather than when closed. Thus, they can't easily be adapted without employing a relay or devising an alternate switching mechanism. For me, it's easier to just live with the risk of breaking them and simply be careful getting in and out when the trafficators are on, or alternately, pointedly turn them off when I've pulled over, if people are getting in and out.
--Alex Haugland
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Sep 9, 2015 03:21 AM
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How about fitting
a normally closed relay
between indicator switch
and trafficator?
Powered by the ignition
earthed by the door switch.
When the door switch closes
power flows through the relay.
The relay opens.
The power to the officiator ceases.
The semaphore arm drops.
One normally closed relay each side.
a normally closed relay
between indicator switch
and trafficator?
Powered by the ignition
earthed by the door switch.
When the door switch closes
power flows through the relay.
The relay opens.
The power to the officiator ceases.
The semaphore arm drops.
One normally closed relay each side.
In reply to # 14179 by ahaugland
Wiring the trafficators to cancel as soon as the door opens is certainly doable but would be tricky. The trafficator grounds out through its mounting so it only has a single wire leading to it which would come from the trafficator switch. You would need a door switch to cut power on the trafficator lead to shut it off. That said, the stock style door switches of most or all British cars generally operate lights by grounding the wire allowing a current to flow when the door is opened rather than when closed. Thus, they can't easily be adapted without employing a relay or devising an alternate switching mechanism. For me, it's easier to just live with the risk of breaking them and simply be careful getting in and out when the trafficators are on, or alternately, pointedly turn them off when I've pulled over, if people are getting in and out.
--Alex Haugland
Eugene, Oregon
USA
In reply to # 14105 by 0123
May I suggest you wire your [trafficators]
so they cancel as soon as the door opens please :0
And that you remember to park away from the footway (sidewalk?)
so they cancel as soon as the door opens please :0
And that you remember to park away from the footway (sidewalk?)
Wiring the trafficators to cancel as soon as the door opens is certainly doable but would be tricky. The trafficator grounds out through its mounting so it only has a single wire leading to it which would come from the trafficator switch. You would need a door switch to cut power on the trafficator lead to shut it off. That said, the stock style door switches of most or all British cars generally operate lights by grounding the wire allowing a current to flow when the door is opened rather than when closed. Thus, they can't easily be adapted without employing a relay or devising an alternate switching mechanism. For me, it's easier to just live with the risk of breaking them and simply be careful getting in and out when the trafficators are on, or alternately, pointedly turn them off when I've pulled over, if people are getting in and out.
--Alex Haugland
Eugene, Oregon
USA
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58traveller
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Sep 19, 2015 11:04 AM
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Alex: thanx for all the info.
Have SF80's and thinking of installing. Did you have or have you made part drawings and electrical, and are they available. Any help greatly appreciated.
Email off line is fine, rogerasay@icloud.com
Roger, '58 Traveller
Have SF80's and thinking of installing. Did you have or have you made part drawings and electrical, and are they available. Any help greatly appreciated.
Email off line is fine, rogerasay@icloud.com
Roger, '58 Traveller
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Sep 24, 2015 04:58 PM
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Alex, me again, the pesty guy that wants to install trafficators. If have diagrams, brackets, rains shields, I'd appreciate info.
rogerasay@icloud.com
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Seven1927
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Sep 27, 2015 07:20 AM
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Hi
Recollections of my 1956 VW beetle might shed some light. Mine was a US export model, left hand drive, probably originally bought by a US soldier stationed in Germany. This car did not have trafficators, only modern indicators.
The UK version definitely had trafficators, and I was told at the time that trafficators were not legal in the US in1956 anyway, which explained the lack of trafficators. Seems likely that the same rule would have applied to Morris Minors as well.
Hope that is useful.
Malcolm
Have tried to attach a photo of a similar beetle, and also a photo of my 1959 convertible, which has no sign of trafficators.
Recollections of my 1956 VW beetle might shed some light. Mine was a US export model, left hand drive, probably originally bought by a US soldier stationed in Germany. This car did not have trafficators, only modern indicators.
The UK version definitely had trafficators, and I was told at the time that trafficators were not legal in the US in1956 anyway, which explained the lack of trafficators. Seems likely that the same rule would have applied to Morris Minors as well.
Hope that is useful.
Malcolm
Have tried to attach a photo of a similar beetle, and also a photo of my 1959 convertible, which has no sign of trafficators.
about 1 week and 3 days later...
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dawpooldad
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Hi all,
just to put some "icing on the cake" as it were on trafficators.
There are now available, in the UK, Led flashing festoon bulbs as a replacement for the filament bulb inside the trafficator itself.
They can be found on http://www.dynamoregulatorconversions.com/flashing-indicator-bulbs-shop.php
I'm sure if you searched long enough though, you might be able to find some on eBay.
I've tried them on my Missus' '54 Ser II and they don't half attract attention!
Most people old enough to remember trafficators are amazed that they "Flash" as they're not expecting them to!
If you do decide to buy them from the above, you can also buy a warning sticker (as if that's needed) just to warn the travelling public!!
Hope this is of help
Best Rgds
dawpooldad
just to put some "icing on the cake" as it were on trafficators.
There are now available, in the UK, Led flashing festoon bulbs as a replacement for the filament bulb inside the trafficator itself.
They can be found on http://www.dynamoregulatorconversions.com/flashing-indicator-bulbs-shop.php
I'm sure if you searched long enough though, you might be able to find some on eBay.
I've tried them on my Missus' '54 Ser II and they don't half attract attention!
Most people old enough to remember trafficators are amazed that they "Flash" as they're not expecting them to!
If you do decide to buy them from the above, you can also buy a warning sticker (as if that's needed) just to warn the travelling public!!
Hope this is of help
Best Rgds
dawpooldad
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