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KiwiMorris Andrew Nodwell
Auckland, Auckland, New Zealand   NZL
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Hi there...looks like a nice project....happy to help in any way I can....text me on 0276567890 and I can hopefully give you a few suggestions ... Cheers Andrew

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0123 Mike D
Biddulph, Staffs, UK   GBR
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May I suggest you wire your fornicators
so they cancel as soon as the door opens please :0

And that you remember to park away from the footway (sidewalk?) sad smiley

Spell checker suggested "Fornicators" instead of "Trafficators".
It sounded fun so I took their fun filled advice hot smiley
It's a grey day here otherwise sad smiley


In reply to # 5175 by 73midget My understanding is that trafficators were only on UK cars; true or false?

How easy/hard is it to install them to a US car, assuming one can find a pair without trading in a kidney?

what years will they fit to?

thanks in advance!

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58traveller Roger Asay
Keno, OR, USA   USA
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All:

Thanx for the info on trafficators. I have '58 Trav. and seriously thinking about installing them. Need the whole package, but I think without the rain shields. Will search eBay as well.

rogerasay@icloud.com

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0123 Mike D
Biddulph, Staffs, UK   GBR
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http://www.gsjones.co.uk/search?controller=search&orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=trafficator&submit_search=Search

http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/forum/phpbb/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2359

In reply to # 14114 by 58traveller All:

Thanx for the info on trafficators. I have '58 Trav. and seriously thinking about installing them. Need the whole package, but I think without the rain shields. Will search eBay as well.

rogerasay@icloud.com

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1843lamp robert g
port costa,ca, USA   USA
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Check the various Ebays ,I have seen many sets and parts for the trafficators over the years ,many sets are Nos ,they are not hard to find.

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0123 Mike D
Biddulph, Staffs, UK   GBR
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https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=LMP175R&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=XTzrVc0gy7TtBtvJh8AG#q=%22LMP175R%22

In reply to # 5175 by 73midget My understanding is that trafficators were only on UK cars; true or false?

How easy/hard is it to install them to a US car, assuming one can find a pair without trading in a kidney?

what years will they fit to?

thanks in advance!

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1843lamp robert g
port costa,ca, USA   USA
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My 1952 and my brothers 1950 California cars both have the original semaphores installed ,they look to be easy to install the operating switches are easy to find ,if your car never had them from the factory then you will probably need to wire them completely yourself ,they do draw as much attention as the car itself.

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0123 Mike D
Biddulph, Staffs, UK   GBR
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http://www.minorpartsofoxford.co.uk/morris-minor-trafficatorsemaphore/

In reply to # 5175 by 73midget My understanding is that trafficators were only on UK cars; true or false?

How easy/hard is it to install them to a US car, assuming one can find a pair without trading in a kidney?

what years will they fit to?

thanks in advance!

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ahaugland Silver Member Alex Haugland
Eugene, OR, USA   USA
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In reply to # 14105 by 0123 May I suggest you wire your [trafficators]
so they cancel as soon as the door opens please :0

And that you remember to park away from the footway (sidewalk?) sad smiley

Wiring the trafficators to cancel as soon as the door opens is certainly doable but would be tricky. The trafficator grounds out through its mounting so it only has a single wire leading to it which would come from the trafficator switch. You would need a door switch to cut power on the trafficator lead to shut it off. That said, the stock style door switches of most or all British cars generally operate lights by grounding the wire allowing a current to flow when the door is opened rather than when closed. Thus, they can't easily be adapted without employing a relay or devising an alternate switching mechanism. For me, it's easier to just live with the risk of breaking them and simply be careful getting in and out when the trafficators are on, or alternately, pointedly turn them off when I've pulled over, if people are getting in and out.

--Alex Haugland
Eugene, Oregon
USA

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0123 Mike D
Biddulph, Staffs, UK   GBR
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How about fitting
a normally closed relay
between indicator switch
and trafficator?

Powered by the ignition
earthed by the door switch.

When the door switch closes
power flows through the relay.

The relay opens.
The power to the officiator ceases.
The semaphore arm drops.

One normally closed relay each side.


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In reply to # 14105 by 0123 May I suggest you wire your [trafficators]
so they cancel as soon as the door opens please :0

And that you remember to park away from the footway (sidewalk?) sad smiley

Wiring the trafficators to cancel as soon as the door opens is certainly doable but would be tricky. The trafficator grounds out through its mounting so it only has a single wire leading to it which would come from the trafficator switch. You would need a door switch to cut power on the trafficator lead to shut it off. That said, the stock style door switches of most or all British cars generally operate lights by grounding the wire allowing a current to flow when the door is opened rather than when closed. Thus, they can't easily be adapted without employing a relay or devising an alternate switching mechanism. For me, it's easier to just live with the risk of breaking them and simply be careful getting in and out when the trafficators are on, or alternately, pointedly turn them off when I've pulled over, if people are getting in and out.

--Alex Haugland
Eugene, Oregon
USA

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58traveller Roger Asay
Keno, OR, USA   USA
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Alex: thanx for all the info.

Have SF80's and thinking of installing. Did you have or have you made part drawings and electrical, and are they available. Any help greatly appreciated.

Email off line is fine, rogerasay@icloud.com

Roger, '58 Traveller

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58traveller Roger Asay
Keno, OR, USA   USA
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Alex, do ou have or know where I can get trafficator mounting brackets for my Traveller?

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58traveller Roger Asay
Keno, OR, USA   USA
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Alex, me again, the pesty guy that wants to install trafficators. If have diagrams, brackets, rains shields, I'd appreciate info.

rogerasay@icloud.com

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Seven1927 Malcolm Little
Dianella, Western Australia, Australia   AUS
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Hi
Recollections of my 1956 VW beetle might shed some light. Mine was a US export model, left hand drive, probably originally bought by a US soldier stationed in Germany. This car did not have trafficators, only modern indicators.
The UK version definitely had trafficators, and I was told at the time that trafficators were not legal in the US in1956 anyway, which explained the lack of trafficators. Seems likely that the same rule would have applied to Morris Minors as well.
Hope that is useful.
Malcolm

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dawpooldad Mike Rostock
WIRRAL, Thingwall, UK   GBR
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Hi all,

just to put some "icing on the cake" as it were on trafficators.

There are now available, in the UK, Led flashing festoon bulbs as a replacement for the filament bulb inside the trafficator itself.

They can be found on http://www.dynamoregulatorconversions.com/flashing-indicator-bulbs-shop.php

I'm sure if you searched long enough though, you might be able to find some on eBay.

I've tried them on my Missus' '54 Ser II and they don't half attract attention!

Most people old enough to remember trafficators are amazed that they "Flash" as they're not expecting them to!

If you do decide to buy them from the above, you can also buy a warning sticker (as if that's needed) just to warn the travelling public!!

Hope this is of help

Best Rgds

dawpooldad

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